Warming up to Halloween 2020.

Gina, Amanda, Rik and Colin with 2019 scary stories of life in organisations.



Colin Beattie and Rik Brown cover much ground in this 2020 sense making conversation.

Going from Shock & Awe in Lockdown 1, Colin has decided to make the most lockdown by experiencing things he doesn't usually experience.

It covers art, games, music, exercise, dance, film, penguins and the hip hop scene of the early 90s.

Colin then fires up about leadership education and how people need space carved out to make sense of the leadership happening around them.

He finishes the conversation will a call out to


Alice Sidhu and Colin Beattie check in over zoom to explore the ebb and flow that is 2020.

Please note there are a few minutes in the middle where the audio is not the best. Welcome to 2020.

Alice is a regular host of LeaderShip of Fools so she knows the drill.  Just some of the territory covered:

- Time to pause and pay attention

- Perfect timing for the big questions about what is really important

- Preserves, conserves and bread makers

- Leadership as a marathon

- Self empathy and understanding

- Digital transformation - when digital adoption has been accelerated

- Cool ways to connect

- We must think about what has been working in 2020 - there are genuine positives

A perfect beginning to our week.


Fran E'silva is such a friend of LeaderShip of Fools. It is wonderful to check in with her in 2020. Amanda Buckley the perfect person to do so.

Fran showcases that she has been asking questions since 1991. And that curiosity has made such a difference in her life and in her career.

Fran makes a special shout out to celebrate and recognise the kind and empathic leaders. She acknowledges that we tend to put too much emphasis on toxic leadership.

She shares habits she has discovered from her Mum and other role models.

And 2020 has been a significant personal year for Fran. And meet Donatello her puppy. Fran is always making the most of life.


Wow. What a conversation. Leadership. Home. Purpose. Insights.

2020 has been life shaping for Damian Zahra.

Colin Beattie and Damian cover much territory.

As GM of HR at Bunnings - Damian has a critical people role for many thousands of team members and the community.

Over 20 minutes we make sense of being On Purpose. Of Reclaiming Space. Of Humanising leadership. Empathy. Right Priorities.

And Three Cs Community. Contribution and Choice.

If you have 20 minutes - this is a conversation you will want to be part of.


Rik Brown. 2020 all the way.

Host becomes Guest. Colin Beattie zooms friend, podcast host, improviser, actor, comedian and now TikTok Instagram sensation Rik Brown.

Rik shares how a simple dance routine turned into over 130 (now over 150) dances with his daughter Milly. 

Instagram _rik.brown_

Rik also shares his take on leadership and how some leaders have used 2020 as a free swing - for good and sometimes for not so good.

Finally we check in Rik's other passion - his podcast with Spark team-members Karl McConnell and Jason Geary (and sometimes Amanda Buckley) How Bout This. As it celebrates its 100th episode.

It is the host's turn to share what 2020 has meant. This episode showcases The People Spot's own Amanda Buckley in conversation with Colin Beattie.

This conversation makes us smile so much.

Amanda's story about the messiness of 2020 through the lens of creating a functional home studio is the best.

AB Positive. With laughter and tears mixed in. 

Please please please take a listen - it is one of our favourites. Oh...and please get involved with 



Adam Ferguson and Ben Cooper-Woolley join Rik Brown for a chat about all things 2020.

Both Adam and Ben reside in Sydney shaping a slightly different check in. Covid 19 has impacted the whole of Australia - but Victoria has been most severely impacted.

So Adam and Ben have been more active with work during 2020.

For those of you experiencing the various stages of Start Up or if you are interested in this world - this is the perfect mini conversation for you.

Adam is a regular on Leadership of Fools.

With Ben they are the founders of sitehive.co and you will soon discover how Shark Tank and Love Island have shaped their journey.


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Todd Lichti and Rik Brown try to make sense of 2020.

One of the great delights of LeaderShip of Fools is the people you meet and the conversations you get to have. Todd Lichti is one of those delights and this conversation is thoughtful, honest and wise.

A lot of our fans love hearing from Todd and the stories he shares about life in the NBA as a professional basketball player.

But his 2020 story about what happens to leaders, parents, sports teams under duress is so timely. And as someone born in the USA and now living in Australia - he shares his take on Donald Trump.

This episode is a great way to end your week.

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Wesa Chau and Amanda Buckley explore all things 2020.

Wesa is making the most of the year. She shares what finding her own style and expression has meant for her confidence and effectivness.

Wesa and Amanda recorded this on the same day the wonderful initiative 

resilienceagainstracism.org.au was launched. You will also hear more about Wesa political aspirations and what it takes to change the system.

Wonderful conversation.


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